Topic: 02/27/10 @ Great American Music Hall, San Francisco (Mark solo)

(I would have posted this in the setlist thread, but I apparently can't create new topics there.)

Mark's set last night was pretty sloppy. He said himself that that he hadn't really practiced, and he had several false starts and forgot the lyrics of a few songs. He played for about an hour and half, including an encore, and played on a nylon string guitar. Here's as much of the setlist as I can remember, probably about two-thirds of it, in no particular order:

Glenn Tipton
I'll Be There [Jackson 5]
All Mixed Up [The Cars]
Like the River
Void
Heron Blue
Carry Me Ohio
Duk Koo Kim (He changed the lyrics to "I watched an old fight film last night / Buster Douglas and Mike Tyson.")

There were several new songs, including the one he played as an encore during the Sun Kil Moon show at the same venue last year. The lyrics featured a lot of geographical and color references (e.g., "Seattle black / Alaska blue").

Re: 02/27/10 @ Great American Music Hall, San Francisco (Mark solo)

This was the first time I had seen him live. Sloppy is the right word! However, it was very nice to see his talent in person and he really showed it in a couple of the new songs. One new song (didn't catch the name) had an odd little repeating finger flick during the picking that was quite unique and I really liked it. I thought Heron Blue and Glenn Tipton were his best played of the show.

Still, I was surprised how little of the *depth* that I hear in his studio versions (and some of the live ones) came across. Is it always like that when he plays solo or was it just the night? I want to see him again just to see but so far I think I enjoy his music far better from albums.

Re: 02/27/10 @ Great American Music Hall, San Francisco (Mark solo)

How was the attendance? Anywhere close to full?

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ggdfan25 wrote:

How was the attendance? Anywhere close to full?

I'm pretty sure it wasn't sold out (I think capacity is around 600), but there was a decent crowd on hand. There were a couple of factors that may have contributed to the turnout: Compared to most other Noise Pop shows, tickets were relatively pricey (around $30), and this show was also scheduled opposite Magnetic Fields. In fact, Mark's first words on stage were something to the effect of "Yeah, I wanted to see the Magnetic Fields tonight, too."

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the guy is acting like a bloody pensioner these days, if he doesn't want to play, why bother playing?

Yeah, his attitude (seems to) continue to worsen with age.   Why the fuck would anyone go see him if he is going to put on half-ass shows.  Losing respect for the dude as we both age.  Get a grip, man (or get out).

Re: 02/27/10 @ Great American Music Hall, San Francisco (Mark solo)

I agree, I thought MK was quite sloppy in some places. at one point he said he had "kind of just rolled out of bed" for this gig, and it sounded like it. i was prepared to be disappointed at this show because last may at GAMH he was such a prima donna and so mean and insulting to some fans that my expectations were very low. with that in mind, i took the show in the spirit of - here's Mark playing for his hometown, in his "living room" so to speak, kind of workshoping some new songs and tossing out some favorites,  and i actually enjoyed the looseness and casualness. he was playing what he said was a 4500.00 nylon string acoustic guitar (didn't catch the brand name) and his play was sloppy and loose on some songs, but actually better than i have ever heard from him before (and i've seen him countless times over the years). it sounds to me like he's been studying classical and/or flamenco guitar, because some of the new songs (I assume they're new, i didn't recognize them) had long intros or interludes with incredibly complicated fingerpicking in classical and flamenco styles. some of these stopped and started a few times, but i was happy to see him stretching himself as a musician and a guitarist - both as a technician and a songwriter. he was in good voice, oversang or was mixed too loud on carry me ohio, hit all the pretty high notes in duk koo kim. I wrote down this song list as he played:

1. Glenn Tipton
2. I'll Be There (Michael Jackson)
3. a new song (or one i didn't recognize), first line: I got some news on you again.

Re: 02/27/10 @ Great American Music Hall, San Francisco (Mark solo)

continuing the set list..... so sorry.....

4. Like the River (he forgot the lyrics and asked the audience "what's the first line of Like the River?"
5. new song? first line: "In my room on 3rd and ?"
6. new song? "No this is not my guitar, i'm bringing it to a friend"
7. new song? "From the ashes river fish and flow forever"
8. Heron Blue
9. All Mixed Up (The Cars)
10. Void
11. Carry Me Ohio
12. Duk Koo Kim
Encore
13. new song? "the saddest smile she wore, she gets more and more alone"
14. new song? "ancient streets of crowded..."

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i was very excited to catch mark kozelek in san francisco again at the stunning great american music hall, particularly since i've just moved back to the bay area from new york. that said, i must admit that my enjoyment of saturday's show stemmed from mostly personal reasons. i have been a fan of mark kozelek's songwriting and music for the last 15 years or so, and at this point, his luminous voice, heart-stopping lyrics, and sublime chords are tethered to my core in a way that can never come unstitched. i will forever be grateful to have his music in my life, but over the last few years, his live performances have often left me frustrated. he generally manages to sneak in a song or two that, for me, greatly redeem the set even when he forgets/repeats the lyrics ["all mixed up" is an example from saturday] because the song itself and the memory of that song--of when i first heard it, of the countless times i've heard it since, and how it still tends to melt even the parts of my heart that i thought recent months had frozen over--is so perfect and powerful that i don't think it could ever be diminished....but i wish that he'd actually play his songs the way he wrote/recorded them sometimes. wanting that, i can't help but wonder if i'm just a selfish fan. i mean i should feel privileged to know his music at all, but on the other hand, i feel for the new/newish fans. every show i saw of his/rhp in the 90s was absolute magic from start to finish [albeit a bit tense at times], and now it's like we only see glimmers of what could be. at one point, i jokingly whispered to my friend, "is he just getting old?" but i really don't think age has anything to do with it, at least not in the physical sense. but maybe passion does dull a bit as we grow older? i can only pray that is not the case, but, in his case, i don't know how else to explain it.

anyway, please excuse the useless nature of this post. i just wanted to chime in because although his performance certainly could have been more focused and inspired, the show truly made my bittersweet homecoming a lot sweeter.

thank you for reading,
rayna

p.s. [i am guessing the parties responsible for such egregious behaviour will not read this, but...] to the people who were standing behind me and who i finally worked up the nerve to talk to, it is NOT okay to converse incessantly during an acoustic set--or any show for that matter. why even bother coming??

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rayna, good to see you post again....it seems like its been a long time. It is interesting to hear about this show, I don't think he just does not care anymore because he is still a perfectionist when it comes to his recording and album art work, so maybe he was having a bad night I don't know, again, its not cool to forget lyrics to his/others songs....its his meal ticket.

A few months back someone here posted a link to an interview with Mark and it talked about some of the music he had been listening to and it was very beautiful and complicated classical/flamenco style guitar, so I think he is really trying to master that technique...he had used classical guitar in the past. I forward to hearing it.

Did anyone get any pics or video?

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i wish i could dismiss it as "a bad night," but that would mean he has had one nearly every time i've seen him since the early aughts. i actually often think it's endearing when singers forget their words and look to the crowd for assistance or just plain repeat themselves and muddle their way through songs; they're only human after all. the thing that kind of irks me is that he'll noodle his way through songs or play seeming medleys, which is a huge disservice to the obvious musical talent he has [not to mention the songs themselves]. the flamenco guitar stylings came through every now and then, and were the more riveting parts of the show ["si paloma" was not played, but i am completely taken by its sound and the sweet, playful way it ripples and rises...please pardon the non-technical language, for i don't know how to play guitar].

as for pics/video, security, acting on kozelek's behalf, requested that everyone check their cameras at the door...

take care,
rayna

p.s. it has been eons since i've posted, i think, so thank you for welcoming me back with your kind words. smile

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http://www.thebaybridged.com/shows/noise-pop-2010/

this is a link to a review of the show in the baybridged. if it doesn't work try googling  baybridged noise pop Mark Kozelek.

the staff announced 3 or 4 times during the show that Mark Kozelek specifically requested there be no video or still photography, and i notice in this review there are pictures of all the artists who performed  except MK. (Paula Frazer was awesome, she has such a haunting voice and lovely songs!)

Re: 02/27/10 @ Great American Music Hall, San Francisco (Mark solo)

rayna wrote:

p.s. [i am guessing the parties responsible for such egregious behaviour will not read this, but...] to the people who were standing behind me and who i finally worked up the nerve to talk to, it is NOT okay to converse incessantly during an acoustic set--or any show for that matter. why even bother coming??

It wasn't just you. I moved from the front right to the back because some people were talking too loud and in the back it was even worse. Overall I was surprised how many rude people were in the audience. But I haven't been to a concert in years....maybe they are all like that now. That and the damn phones. Everywhere.

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Well at least you got to see him which a last minute health problem prevented me from doing. My whole holiday had to be cancelled the day before I was to fly out and I needed an operation and a week in hospital as well, sigh. My brother and friends went along and were quite impressed (without him being a huge fan). Five new songs would have been great and it looks as if new material should be imminent. I don't believe that Mark enjoys live performing at all and it's a necessary evil...I'm sure he is chuffed with the very positive reviews that Kath Bloom's release has gotten.
Haven't seen a live gig since Florence and the Machine last December but the next few weeks have some real corkers in Field Music Crawdaddy Dublin 5/3, Retribution Gospel Choir 13/3 Whelans Dublin, Wild Beasts 27/3 Academy Dublin and same venue Laura Marling 10/4. So lots to look forward to and anyone in San Fran should try and catch the brilliant (and heavily pregnant) Laura Veirs in Cafe du Nord later in March. She is a fantastic live performer IMHO. By all accounts there were some nice posters avilable at the MK gig.

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Re: 02/27/10 @ Great American Music Hall, San Francisco (Mark solo)

Maybe because the crowd was being disrespectful Mark just didn't give a fuck and played a lousy set. We've all heard him tell the crowd to shut up...maybe he was just over it.

Im not defending him though...I would be bummed if I paid to see him and he just played a below average set.

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I was there for the whole show, starting with the Fences, and I think it was a little of both. there were some rude loud people in the audience, it was a very casual crowd. also, MK admitted he "just rolled out of bed" for this gig, and he was very loose and sloppy.  he bailed on the end of carry me ohio and rushed through it just to get it over. i hate it when he does that. but some of the songs were sung and played beautifully, duk koo kim, imho was exquisite. and i thoroughly enjoyed the new material that he was willing to share with us - even though it wasn't note perfect or completely memorized, it was a privelege to hear it.  i'm looking foward to the next release.  I feel bad for fans who are relatively new to MK, because yes, he used to give really intense dramatic cohesive performances that were full of intense energy.  he's mellowing with age, maybe. i hope not. one of the new songs had lyrics that said something about "your skin is glistening (? or ripening?) my skin is withering... he's been doing this a long time.  maybe it just takes more out of him nowadays...